Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version Tektronix Network News Daemon (B 2.10.2 based); site daemon.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!drutx!mtuxo!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!daemon!richl From: richl@daemon.UUCP (Rick Lindsley) Newsgroups: net.bicycle Subject: Re: left turns Message-ID: <856@daemon.UUCP> Date: Mon, 10-Jun-85 03:13:41 EDT Article-I.D.: daemon.856 Posted: Mon Jun 10 03:13:41 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 12-Jun-85 06:43:30 EDT References: <605@intelca.UUCP> Reply-To: richl@daemon.UUCP (Rick Lindsley) Distribution: net Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR Lines: 23 Summary: The first move I make is to take the full lane and signal, so that nobody is confused about what I am trying to do. The second move is to try not to be the first guy in line if I can help it, because of those sensors. If a car pulls up behind me while I'm waiting I let him pull ahead of me and I take the position behind him. (Some drivers will look at you strangely but none have ever complained!) If I have sat through a full cycle of lights and not gotten the green (or the cycle does not seem to be changing) and the intersection is not a complicated one, then I treat the intersection as I would one with a broken signal -- I turn left when it is safe to turn left. I have been told by a police officer that this is perfectly acceptable as long as I do it safely. (Of course this may have been acceptable to *him*, but perhaps the next officer won't feel that way; I don't know. But it does have the benefit of making sense.) If the intersection is a complicated one (more than 4 streets or a peculiar cycle or anything that makes me nervous like a high number of trucks) then I go the pedestrian route. Rick Lindsley ...{decvax,ihnp4,allegra}!tektronix!daemon!richl