Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84 chuqui version 1.7 9/23/84; site nsc.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!lsuc!pesnta!nsc!nessus From: nessus@nsc.UUCP (Kchula-Rrit) Newsgroups: net.bicycle Subject: Re: left turns Message-ID: <2841@nsc.UUCP> Date: Tue, 11-Jun-85 19:36:17 EDT Article-I.D.: nsc.2841 Posted: Tue Jun 11 19:36:17 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 12-Jun-85 10:29:17 EDT References: <605@intelca.UUCP> <1636@reed.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: The Patriarchy of Kzin, Kzin Lines: 21 >In article <605@intelca.UUCP> kds@intelca.UUCP (Ken Shoemaker) writes: >>I'm kinda new to this, so please bear with me...when riding in this area >>it sometimes becomes useful to turn left (suprised?). However, there are >>a couple of problems with this: >> >>1) most left turns around here have sensors in the street, so they don't >> change unless something large and metalic is sitting on them. > > ... > The "when in doubt, become a > pedestrian" is good advice. In some states it's legal for a > bicycle to make a left turn from the right lane by 1) crossing > the street (like you're going straight) then 2) getting into > the right lane of the cross street (and waiting for the light). > ... I have ridden in Chicago(!) and Phoenix, two places which I do not consider bicycle-friendly, using the above-mentioned method for approx 3 years without any problems. Well, if the cross street was not busy... Kchula-Rrit