Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site bbncca.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!bbncca!slipson From: slipson@bbncca.ARPA (Samuel R. Lipson) Newsgroups: net.bicycle Subject: Theft Resistance of U-shaped bicycle locks (QUERY) Message-ID: <1468@bbncca.ARPA> Date: Sun, 23-Jun-85 20:28:51 EDT Article-I.D.: bbncca.1468 Posted: Sun Jun 23 20:28:51 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 24-Jun-85 08:20:20 EDT Organization: Bolt, Beranek and Newman, Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 32 I'd like to hear from people who have had bicycles stolen due to the failure of their "high-security" (Citadel/ Kryptonite type) lock, and not the "immovable object" your bike was locked to. I'm not sure whether the Kryptonite/Citadel story is hype, and I'd like to find out. It certainly appears it would be harder to use bolt-cutters on one of these than a chain or cable, but I have a hard time believing they're only succeptable to "200 lbs of cutting/welding equipment", as some of the advertising suggests. I've been told (by my local bicycle "entrepreneurs") that a Kryptonite lock can be shattered by applying dry ice [did I just encourage some would be bicycle thief?]. Does this only apply to the dark colored ones on sunny days (i.e. temperature difference), or is it a general characteristic of "hardened steel"? My local bike shops swear by the Kryptonite locks, but I've known people who think the Citadel is the only one worth using. Are these profit/religion motivated people, or is there some fact behind their opinions? General comments on bicycle (and "fixed" accessory) theft prevention are welcomed. (Using typical outdoor bicycle racks or typical city immovable object -- indoor/controlled environment makes the problem less difficult.) I will post a summary. --Sam Lipson {decvax, ihnp4}!bbnccv!slipson