Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site reed.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!tektronix!reed!alexis From: alexis@reed.UUCP (Alexis Dimitriadis) Newsgroups: net.bio Subject: Re: Up The Down Escalator Message-ID: <1629@reed.UUCP> Date: Fri, 7-Jun-85 22:49:26 EDT Article-I.D.: reed.1629 Posted: Fri Jun 7 22:49:26 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 10-Jun-85 20:49:07 EDT References: <237@ihnet.UUCP> Reply-To: alexis@reed.UUCP (PUT YOUR NAME HERE) Distribution: net Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon Lines: 33 Summary: In article <237@ihnet.UUCP> eklhad@ihnet.UUCP (K. A. Dahlke) writes: > Suppose we have two men, X and Y. X is climbing a long flight > of stairs, while Y is climbing a down escalator. > X has already begun his ascent, and is no longer accelerating. > Y also has a constant velocity, namely 0 (relative to the building). > As Y climbs up, the escalator moves down. > The question, who is doing more work? > I did not submit this question to net.physics, because I already > know the physics answer. X is traversing a distance, against a force, > line integrals F.dS etc etc, and so X is doing work while Y is lazy. > However, X and Y seem to be making the same movements, against the same force. Actually, physics does have the answer: If you use, in each case, the steps as a reference frame, you find that both men are doing the same amount of work. To use a "stationary" reference frame in the case of the escalator is misleading, since an immobile man in the escalator is losing potential energy in a stationary reference frame, but not in the reference frame of the escalator. Bot men are doing the same amount of work, it is the work done by the escalator that causes the difference. Alexis Dimitriadis -- _______________________________________________ As soon as I get a full time job, the opinions expressed above will attach themselves to my employer, who will never be rid of them again. alexis @ reed ...teneron! \ ...seismo!ihnp4! - tektronix! - reed.UUCP ...decvax! /