Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version VT1.00C 11/1/84; site vortex.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!decvax!vortex!lauren From: lauren@vortex.UUCP (Lauren Weinstein) Newsgroups: net.crypt Subject: Re: encrypted mail Message-ID: <691@vortex.UUCP> Date: Sat, 15-Jun-85 17:54:15 EDT Article-I.D.: vortex.691 Posted: Sat Jun 15 17:54:15 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 18-Jun-85 05:28:13 EDT References: <198@geowhiz.UUCP> Organization: Vortex Technology, Los Angeles Lines: 36 Note that the right to distribute information is not absolute. We all know the one about "shouting fire in a crowded public place." There are others: 1) Aiding and abetting in the commission of a crime. Would a non-common-carrier be aiding in a crime if information (let's say credit card lists) were sent through their system? What if they were TOLD this was going on but continued to do it since they claimed they couldn't do anything about encrypted mail? Common-carriers have some protection in this area, but getting common-carrier classification is not particularly easy--their are lots of conditions to be met. 2) Child pornograpy (obvious -- hopefully doesn't apply to this net). 3) In many countries, the distribution of "hate literature" is illegal (Canada, much of Europe). In fact, Europe dropped net.politics due to messages coming through the gateway that were illegal over there! Similar laws are being considered in the U.S.--inspired by recent Neo-Nazi events. 4) Libel and copyright violations we all know about. I know of no laws that make violations of the above sorts of things legal just because they are encoded. I suspect the first time there was a violation, people could claim ignorance and probably be OK. But if the existence of encrypted mail systems was used as on ongoing excuse that prevented the stopping of traffic in violation of law (I'm not arguing the quality of those laws in this message) then the effects might be, uh, interesting to say the least. --Lauren--