Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site looking.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!looking!brad From: brad@looking.UUCP (Brad Templeton) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.social,net.women,net.flame Subject: The Horrible thing nobody's had the guts to say about Affirmative Action Message-ID: <278@looking.UUCP> Date: Tue, 4-Jun-85 00:00:00 EDT Article-I.D.: looking.278 Posted: Tue Jun 4 00:00:00 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 5-Jun-85 00:55:29 EDT References: <566@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> <879@mnetor.UUCP> <158@lzwi.UUCP> Organization: Looking Glass Software, Waterloo, Ont Lines: 20 Xref: watmath net.politics:9237 net.social:587 net.women:5512 net.flame:10281 Summary: There's been talk here and there saying, "Women make up 51% of the population but only 10% of the engineers - there must be discrimination and AA is the way to counter it." The one thing people haven't had the guts to say is that quite simply, 51% of the most qualified engineers and computer scientists are not women. Plain and simple. This is the problem! The main problem is not that people are refusing to hire women. The problem is that far more men are qualified than women. This is the problem we should attack, through education and encouragement. To attack it at the job level is to attack a symptom. I am not sure why it is the case that there are far more men qualified in these fields, (although I have some interesting theories). It may be related to upbringing, society or genetics - nobody can say for sure yet. Nonetheless, this is where the problem lies. -- Brad Templeton, Looking Glass Software Ltd. - Waterloo, Ontario 519/884-7473