Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site luke.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!hao!hplabs!oliveb!bene!luke!sml From: sml@luke.UUCP (Steven List @ Uncle Bene's Farm) Newsgroups: net.flame,net.women Subject: Re: Re: Re: Women and the consumption of toilet paper. Message-ID: <175@luke.UUCP> Date: Sun, 2-Jun-85 17:47:02 EDT Article-I.D.: luke.175 Posted: Sun Jun 2 17:47:02 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 6-Jun-85 05:18:39 EDT References: <302@sdcc12.UUCP> <2484@randvax.UUCP> <1417@amdcad.UUCP> <858@mnetor.UUCP> <1814@ukma.UUCP> <389@mtxinu.UUCP> Organization: Benetics Corp, Mt.View, CA Lines: 34 Xref: watmath net.flame:10302 net.women:5533 > >>I think it is due to testosterone poisonning myself. > > > >Frankly, Ms. Quigley, I think your attitude sucks. > > I like her attitude much better than your sense of humor. > > >Believe it or not, there are quite a few men who really don't give a shit > >whether they are manly or not. They do things because they like to do so, > >or because it makes sense to do so, not because they are trying to prove > >themselves or make a social issue. > > Well, to tie this in to another major discussion on the group - that of > sexist language - most men stand up because that's how their fathers > did it. In other words, they're just carrying on the male tradition > without thinking about what it means. That's exactly the problem the > folks who want to get rid of "he" as the generic third person pronoun > want to deal with. > > It was corny at the time, and still is, but there's a line in the play > "Butterflies are Free" that says "There are none so blind as those > who will not see." Corny or not, it makes a good point. I don't know about you, but I think it's an awful lot easier to stand up, open my fly, and take a leak than removing and restoring my pants (et al) for something so simple. I think God's mistake was in not providing women the same facility! /-\ :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-: : Steven List @ Benetics Corporation : : (415) 940-6300 : : {cdp,idi,oliveb,tolerant}!bene!luke!steven : :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-: \-/