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From: jeff@rtech.UUCP (Jeff Lichtman)
Newsgroups: net.women,net.flame
Subject: Re: Discrimination
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Date: Tue, 4-Jun-85 15:00:56 EDT
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Posted: Tue Jun  4 15:00:56 1985
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> I'm a white male (last time I looked), and the one notable thing
> about my early education (both home, in a lesser way, and school,
> in a major way) was that I was urged to follow my father into the
> steel mills, since THAT WAS MY PLACE IN LIFE.  Gee, doesn't that
> sound like discrimination?
> 
> OK, given that I (and, I'm sure, many other white males) have
> been just as discriminated against (national origin counts
> as much as race in some places, Michael) why do I have to
> be DISCRIMINATED AGAINST by AA agenda.  
> Why do I get put into last place on all sorts of lists just 
> because I'm white and male?   (I seem to have learned how to
> deal with that, but I shouldn't HAVE to deal with it at all, damnit!)

You were discriminated against, but not because you are a white male.
It was because you were the son of a steelworker, and some people think
that no one who comes from your background has any brains.  I wouldn't
be opposed to AA in favor of people who were discriminated against in
this way.  Now, you may say that you overcame this discrimination without
AA, and so others should be able to, also.  I say that you sound like
an exception, just as blacks and women who were able to overcome discrimination
before the AA laws and other anti-discrimination laws were exceptions.

> "What's the use of bearing bracers, hats or spats or shoes
> with laces, or the things they buy in places down on Brompton Row?

Hmm.  Are you an Oak, Ash & Thorn Fan?

> 
> (ihnp4/allegra)!alice!jj
-- 
Jeff Lichtman at rtech (Relational Technology, Inc.)
aka Swazoo Koolak

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