Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site unc.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!mcnc!unc!fsks From: fsks@unc.UUCP (Frank Silbermann) Newsgroups: net.singles,net.social,net.flame Subject: Salemanship Message-ID: <396@unc.UUCP> Date: Thu, 6-Jun-85 21:04:12 EDT Article-I.D.: unc.396 Posted: Thu Jun 6 21:04:12 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 10-Jun-85 06:41:00 EDT References: <968@peora.UUCP> <1424@mtx5b.UUCP> <344@unc.UUCP> Reply-To: fsks@unc.UUCP (Frank Silbermann) Organization: CS Dept., U. of N. Carolina at Chapel Hill Lines: 35 Xref: linus net.singles:6260 net.social:594 net.flame:9540 Summary: >>Dale Carnegie's book is quite a good one for a salesman. >>Let's face it, we're all salemen some of the time. In article jer@peora.UUCP (J. Eric Roskos) writes: >Yes, but nowadays people are too MUCH salesmen. I see this conducting >job interviews. People think that if they are just good enough salesmen, >their personal attributes will be overlooked. This is not true. Sheesh! Employers are never satisfied, are they? First they said they wanted college graduates. So the youth all went to college. Then they said they wanted graduates of useful disciplines, not liberal arts. So people shifted from liberal arts to business and engineering. Then the employers said that technical skills are not enough. You must sell yourself. So the students practiced salesmenship. Now they say salesmanship is not enough. They must have a good character and good communications skills (isn't that the purpose of a liberal arts program?). Next thing, employers are going to demand students who are able to separate themselves above the crowd, but without becoming unconventional. Smart, but not intellectual. Prudent, but not afraid to take risks. Social and well-rounded, with many hobbies, but hard working and dedicated to the job. A family-oriented man who will put his job ahead of his family. Feet on the ground, no head in the clouds, but a regualar church-goer. Just tell us what you want, and that's what we'll become. Frank Silbermann ANYBODY OUT THERE FROM PALATKA, FLORIDA, OR THEREABOUTS?