Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site randvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!randvax!karen From: karen@randvax.UUCP (Karen Isaacson) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.social,net.women,net.flame Subject: Re: Discrimination and Affirmative Action Message-ID: <2532@randvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 6-Jun-85 10:37:12 EDT Article-I.D.: randvax.2532 Posted: Thu Jun 6 10:37:12 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 10-Jun-85 20:40:46 EDT References: <566@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP>, <478@hou2g.UUCP>, <903@houxf.UUCP>, <157@lzwi.UUCP> <907@houxf.UUCP> Organization: Rand Corp., Santa Monica Lines: 27 Xref: watmath net.politics:9340 net.social:622 net.women:5645 net.flame:10399 > ->First, I find that many white males are promoted for reasons other > ->than education, experience, competency, etc. and that even > ->when those reasons are a factor, other factors also come into > ->play. People are promoted or hired or not fired because they go to church > ->with the person making the decision (or someone known to the > ->person making the decision), because they belong to the same > ->fraternity, because they lived in the same town or because they > ->went to the same school... > > These "social footladders" are just as difficult to penetrate for > the average white male as they are for blacks & females, consider > Mr X from Average Town with no parental financial support to > speak of. How does he pay the country club fees ? He went to a > State University (because his parents couldn't afford Haaaarvard). Well, my husband is a fairly "average white male" (though don't tell him I said so) who was bright enough & hard working enough to be accepted by Haaaarvard & surprise! If you are accepted, they make sure you can afford to go. (Though I have to admit they don't pay your country club fees...) Of course, if he was a Kennedy,$I suppose he *would* have had an easier time of it, but how many Kennedys (Kennedies?) are there? -- Karen Isaacson decvax!randvax!karen karen@rand-unix.arpa