Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site spar.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!spar!ellis From: ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) Newsgroups: net.women,net.flame Subject: Re: Discrimination and Affirmative Action Message-ID: <310@spar.UUCP> Date: Mon, 10-Jun-85 12:45:56 EDT Article-I.D.: spar.310 Posted: Mon Jun 10 12:45:56 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 13-Jun-85 01:27:48 EDT References: <2968@drutx.UUCP> Reply-To: ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) Organization: Schlumberger Palo Alto Research, CA Lines: 24 Xref: watmath net.women:5741 net.flame:10470 >> ...with the possible exception of Asians, whose culture predisposes >> them to work inordinately harder than us honkies. > >Utter BS. Hard work is largely a matter of personal pride irregardless >of race, sex, color, creed, *culture* or age. > >William D. But ALL cultures statistically produce offspring whose ambition, `personal pride', belief in the system, and desire/ability to conform tend to match those of the parents with whom they were raised. This is one of the major problems that our oppressed face. Such conditioning is (apparently) difficult for our overprivileged to understand. Please understand that nobody is saying such conditioning is IMPOSSIBLE to overcome, just that for many it is likely to be a most difficult obstacle. Do you insist that one's upbringing has no influence on one's attitudes? If so, your lack of understanding is appalling. -michael