Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ttidcc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!mcnc!philabs!ttidca!ttidcc!regard From: regard@ttidcc.UUCP (Adrienne Regard) Newsgroups: net.women,net.flame Subject: AA and guilt Message-ID: <471@ttidcc.UUCP> Date: Tue, 11-Jun-85 17:28:33 EDT Article-I.D.: ttidcc.471 Posted: Tue Jun 11 17:28:33 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Jun-85 00:49:51 EDT Organization: TTI, Santa Monica, CA. Lines: 19 Xref: watmath net.women:5775 net.flame:10499 >The point is that AA is a violation of the premise >"innocent until proven guilty" and that it presumes >I'm guilty. (As does Mike Ellis, and someone else who >calls me a Bozo, and so on.) >(ihnp4/allegra)!alice!jj jj, guilty of what? AA isn't on trial, and neither are you. If an employer ignores the guidelines determined by the govt., they may be found guilty, but guilty of ignoring the guidelines, period. "innocent until proven guilty" is a legal concept. Now the guidelines were put in place because people WERE guilty of discrimination, but unless you are an employer who refuses to attempt to implement the guidelines, you aren't guilty of anything. We don't try bigots for bigotry, we try them for something else. Motives aren't on trial. Actions (or the lack thereof) are.