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Subject: Re: The new configuration of the net
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Date: Tue, 11-Jun-85 02:55:30 EDT
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Posted: Tue Jun 11 02:55:30 1985
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>     In the early days of the net, there were newsgroups based on individual
>     topics, such as religion, music, computer technology, food, etc...
[ad extremely nauseam, unless you've got a cast-iron stomach...]
>     And so,  still more  subgrouping was tried,...
[and on and on and on and on...]
>     And we all lived happily ever after,  serene in the knowledge that we'd
>     never have to face  anyone who held an alternate  viewpoint on anything
>     at all, ever again.

The other extreme, which I must guess is Rich's choice, is to have "net" as
THE newsgroup.  Rich doesn't differentiate between "differing points of
view" and "differing interests".  In other words, if you want to talk about
what you want to talk about (sounds dangerously like a tautology?) you
don't have specific interests; you're not even narrow-minded, or even
monomaniacal--you're a bigot.  Case in point:  Rich hasn't bothered to
post anything to net.music.gdead until this most recent spate of bitching.
He doesn't care to read what we're discussing, and he sure as hell doesn't
want to contribute to it.  I'm not sure what he wants...wish I knew; maybe
we could give him a newsgroup for it!(:-):-):-)

With net.music, it's almost gotten to where a sufficient justification for
a new subgroup is not to have to listen to (or 'n' past) Rich Rosen (and
his various cutesy names in the news headers).  It's unfortunate--honestly
so--because Rich has a good background in music and has a lot to contribute
when he's not berating people and concepts.  I wish he could keep to the
newsgroup topics and skip the flaming.  We all cut loose a flame now and
then (as...sigh...I guess I'm doing right now) but Rich's anti-subgroup
vendetta has come to be a drag for everyone and even an albatross to him
(which he carries all too proudly).

Again, to illustrate with net.music.gdead:  The subgroup has a dedicated
following and has shown over 200 articles since it was created a couple of
months ago.  The people who were following and contributing to net.music
haven't noticeably disappeared from net.music (in spite of getting flamed
now and then); they've just taken the part of the discussion not obviously
of interest to mainstream net.music readers into the subgroup.  So what's
the problem?  Rich doesn't like it.  That's it.  Nothing substantive, just
a matter of taste.  Too bad.
-- 
Dick Dunn	{hao,ucbvax,allegra}!nbires!rcd		(303)444-5710 x3086
   ...Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile.