Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site unc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!decvax!mcnc!unc!fsks From: fsks@unc.UUCP (Frank Silbermann) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.social,net.women,net.flame Subject: Re: Discrimination and Affirmative Action Message-ID: <449@unc.UUCP> Date: Sat, 15-Jun-85 11:50:33 EDT Article-I.D.: unc.449 Posted: Sat Jun 15 11:50:33 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 17-Jun-85 20:20:46 EDT References: <566@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> Reply-To: fsks@unc.UUCP (Frank Silbermann) Organization: CS Dept., U. of N. Carolina at Chapel Hill Lines: 53 Xref: watmath net.politics:9441 net.social:673 net.women:5879 net.flame:10593 Summary: >> is myself, Frank Silbermann > is Kyle D. Henriksen >>Blacks must solve problems such as poverty and unemployment >>via economic growth from within their own community. >>What is needed is a new black enterprenurial class. >>True black power will be created with the rise of black >>storekeepers and merchants. By starting their own businesses, >>blacks can create their own opportunities, instead of waiting >>for some white "big daddy" to take care of them. > Look you jerk True, I am a jerk. But that's hardly relevant here. > you can say anything you want about what blacks should or should not do, > but I would appreciate it if you would not include cute little "jive" > quotes in your submissions. Big deal! OK, I'll try not to do it again. > What the hell is a "big daddy" anyway? A paternalistic boss who makes decisions for you and is responsible for your welfare (no pun intended). My point was: The idea that blacks are doomed to remain in poverty until the government decides to do something about it is insulting to blacks, and implies that they are helpless to improve their situation on their own. Such beliefs are remind me of the white slave owners who claimed that blacks were inherently too immature to look after themselves, and thus require whites to control their lives and lead them. I don't believe it. > Seeming as I have never heard this term used (other than on TV shows > written by white people), I'll have to assume you know as much > about black people as the "Dukes of Hazzard". I bet you even have a > "black" friend (gag). You're right, I know nothing at all about blacks. But, I assume that beneath the skin they are no different than whites. And whites I know about. Am I wrong about this? Do YOU believe that there are fundamental differences between people of different races? I'd be interested in hearing the details. I get the impression that my earlier posting offended you, but I am not sure exactly what I said that you disagree with. Surely you cannot be so irate merely over my amateuristic writing style? Frank Silbermann