Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP
Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihuxn.UUCP
Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!ihuxn!res
From: res@ihuxn.UUCP (Rich Strebendt @ AT&T Information Systems - Indian Hill West; formerly)
Newsgroups: net.flame
Subject: Re: Abuse of the Net
Message-ID: <1102@ihuxn.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 20-Jun-85 14:09:53 EDT
Article-I.D.: ihuxn.1102
Posted: Thu Jun 20 14:09:53 1985
Date-Received: Fri, 21-Jun-85 01:11:33 EDT
References: <146@epicen.UUCP> <988@mnetor.UUCP> <230@luke.UUCP>
Distribution: net
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Lines: 63

> Having followed several  dialogues  in  net.flame  since  joining
> (about  six  weeks),  I finally feel compelled to speak directly.
> Two subjects raise their exceedingly ugly heads: Alex Quilici and
> Scott R. Turner.
> 
> The dialogues involve toilet  paper,  pissing,  and  abuse.   The
> subjects have been abusive, petty, and just plain irritating.

Also sickening to anyone trying to make serious use of the net for
information transfer.

> I have just read followups by Sophie Quigley and  Larry  Wall  to
> Alex's  `cute'  joke.   What  an asshole!  

Careful -- a remark like that (comparing Alex to an anus) is an insult
to every self-respecting anus in the nation!!!

> I
> don't object to foul language  or  personal  abuse  

I think that there is a BIG difference between the use of expletives to
express vehement feelings and the sewage that has been dumped onto the
net in recent weeks.  I have no problem with strong language being used
to emphasize a point;  I AM irritated and angry with the foul diatribes
being posted in the form of degrading personal attacks.  That kind of
shit doesn't belong ANYWHERE in civilized society.

> Where  do you live Alex?  Shall we copy all the foul
> postings from net.flame and wallpaper your home with  them?   How
> about mailing them to your family and signing your name?

How about sending a folio of his commentary to his site adminitrator
and getting his ass booted off of the net until he grows up?

> Hopefully either Alex
> will learn that his humor  is  not  appreciated  or  he  will  be
> excised.

I vote for excision as a part of his learning process.

> The other subject is Scott.  ... Hey  Scott?
> Call  a  hospital NOW!  ... Here's another one who needs to be cut  
> out.   I  don't  know  if
> anyone  else  uses  the  net at his site, but I think they should
> remove his login.  If he continues, I think he should be  removed
> from the net.

I second the motions above.  Scott needs professional help.  In the
meantime, his site administrator could spare the rest of the world a
lot of nausea by pulling his net priviledges.

> People like Alex and Scott change the net from a wonderful window
> on the world to a peephole into an outhouse.

"Wonderful" may be a bit strong, but I agree with the sentiment.  I
personally read the net for technical information (the 80286/68020
discussion has been very interesting) and for general keeping up with
the technical world.  I find the "peephole into an outhouse" type of
posting very offensive.  It perverts a channel for information flow
into a sewer.

					Rich Strebendt
					...!ihnp4!iwsl6!res