Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site mtxinu.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!mcnc!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!umcp-cs!gymble!lll-crg!dual!unisoft!mtxinu!ed From: ed@mtxinu.UUCP (Ed Gould) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.social,net.women,net.flame Subject: Re: Discrimination and Affirmative Action (in hi-tech) Message-ID: <408@mtxinu.UUCP> Date: Sun, 16-Jun-85 03:33:31 EDT Article-I.D.: mtxinu.408 Posted: Sun Jun 16 03:33:31 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 21-Jun-85 01:44:06 EDT References: <566@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> <879@mnetor.UUCP> <394@mtxinu.UUCP> <593@ihu1h.UUCP> Reply-To: ed@mtxinu.UUCP (Ed Gould) Organization: mt Xinu, Berkeley, CA Lines: 22 Xref: watmath net.politics:9487 net.social:701 net.women:5965 net.flame:10653 In article <593@ihu1h.UUCP> parnass@ihu1h.UUCP (Bob Parnass, AJ9S) writes: >[reference to my earlier posting suggesting that Asians might be better > off in the hi-tech workforce due to working harder] >As a matter of fact, if I understand your last sentence, it seems to >erode your first conclusion (i.e., it's working hard that earns promotion). There is a degree to which hard work earns promotions, but remember that I used the phrase "work *inordinately* harder". I don't think that Asians do nearly as much better than other minorities to balance out the harder work. What I was suggesting is that through working much harder than members of the "establishment", they are able to get their representation in the work force up to about what it "should" be, just taking numbers of people of various races into account. Since they *do* work so hard, I would suggest that rather than be adequately represented, they are still under-represented because they're more qualified and therefore should have more of the jobs. -- Ed Gould mt Xinu, 2910 Seventh St., Berkeley, CA 94710 USA {ucbvax,decvax}!mtxinu!ed +1 415 644 0146