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From: quint@topaz.ARPA (Amqueue)
Newsgroups: net.games.frp
Subject: Re: fumbles
Message-ID: <2196@topaz.ARPA>
Date: Tue, 4-Jun-85 19:27:07 EDT
Article-I.D.: topaz.2196
Posted: Tue Jun  4 19:27:07 1985
Date-Received: Thu, 6-Jun-85 06:49:07 EDT
References: <754@druxp.UUCP> <187@snow.warwick.UUCP>
Reply-To: quint@topaz.UUCP (Amqueue)
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
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Keywords: socks,fighing,fumbles

In article <187@snow.warwick.UUCP> req@warwick.UUCP (Russell Quin) writes:
>In article <754@druxp.UUCP> mab@druxp.UUCP (BlandMA) writes:
>>One fighter in our group now feels pretty lucky against trolls[...]. 
>>In his first melee against trolls, the first troll to attack him fumbled
>>("hit self for maximum damage") which knocked the troll unconsious
>>(trolls do lots of damage).
>
>Is his a reasonable result?  What kind of mistake could the troll have made
>that would have resulted in it knocking itself unconscious?
>Perhaps someone out here knows enough about Fighting -- I'd guess that it was
>using bare claws, but what if it was using a sword?  Any swordsmen out there
>care to comment?
>So how about a Fumble Table and/or combat system from the heart of the SCA, or
>anyone else who understande these things?
>[Perhaps this sort of discussion really belongs in FRPList;  mail me with any
>ideas & I'll include them --R]
>		- Russell

What if the person ducked, and the troll didnt have a good balance...
he could swat himself in the head. The Runequest (tm) fumble tables are
effectively from SCA... the people who made up runequest were(are?) in the
SCA. for a while I was training to be a fighter... and nearly knocked 
myself out while trying to hit a pell! Im sure a real opponent would be 
much more dangerous than a stationary tree.

/amqueue