Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 4/15/85; site lzwi.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!mtuxo!pegasus!lzwi!nrh From: nrh@lzwi.UUCP (N.R.HASLOCK) Newsgroups: net.games.frp Subject: Re: fumbles Message-ID: <181@lzwi.UUCP> Date: Tue, 25-Jun-85 01:24:55 EDT Article-I.D.: lzwi.181 Posted: Tue Jun 25 01:24:55 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 20-Jun-85 20:03:43 EDT References: <171@lzwi.UUCP> <467@ttidcc.UUCP> <572@umd5.UUCP> <484@ttidcc.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Information Systems, Lincroft Lines: 41 In article <484@ttidcc.UUCP>, hollombe@ttidcc.UUCP (The Polymath) writes: > > BTW, I had a chance to handle a morningstar at the L.A. Renaissence > Pleasure Faire a few weeks ago. A _very_ unbalanced (hence difficult) > weapon. To really use it well would require enormous strength of wrist and > forearm, not to mention lots of practice. > > Imagine an inexperienced fighter picking one up on the field of battle. He > attempts to wind up by swinging his forearm up and back ... the ball on the > end of the chain swings around ... crunch! > -- As I remember the beginning of this discussion, it was 'how to you justify an attacker rushing up to you and hitting himself for MAXIMUM damage. I agree that there are weapons that will do damage to a careless or inexperiance user. I still find it unreasonable that a fighter, using his own weapons against himself, can inflict MAXIMUM damage. In Jerry's scenario above, I can not justify more than 1d6 damage. This is because I believe that MAXIMUM damage requires an extended arm swing of 180 degrees or spinning the ball at speed around the end of the handle, before a smooth delivery to the target. This should deliver 12 to 18 damage. Yes, you can hurt yourself with your own weapons. However, I do not believe you can do maximum damage to yourself by a fumble, with the weapon in your hand P.S. I too have fought SCA style, I have also examined real plate and mail. -- -- {ihnp4|vax135|allegra}!lznv!nrh Nigel The Mad Englishman or The Madly Maundering Mumbler in the Wildernesses Everything you have read here is a figment of your imagination. Noone else in the universe currently subscribes to these opinions. "Its the rope, you know. You can't get it, you know."