Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 5/3/83; site ukc.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!mcvax!ukc!ncg From: ncg@ukc.UUCP (N.C.Gale) Newsgroups: net.games.pbm Subject: Austria Message-ID: <5230@ukc.UUCP> Date: Mon, 17-Jun-85 09:23:03 EDT Article-I.D.: ukc.5230 Posted: Mon Jun 17 09:23:03 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 16-Jun-85 05:44:21 EDT Reply-To: ncg@ukc.UUCP (Nige Gale) Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Kent at Canterbury, UK Lines: 43 The W4S4 game: I need advice. I am Austria-Hungary. The game started with 5 players, but both Germany and Italy were allowed into the game after it had started. Both Germany and Italy have now been wiped out. I was allied to Russia, and was happily stomping on Turkey, while supporting (on and off) the Italians against France. France and England were stomping on Germany, and France was failing to make any headway against the Italians (because of my support). When Germany at last fell, roughly at the same time as Italy, France and England were left with no one to attack. And there was I with the princely (!) number of 9 supply centres. Instantly, everyone declared war on me, including Russia, who pulled his armies out of Syria and Armenia and began an all-out assault. The French captured Tunis, Naples and Rome from me. More by luck than judgement, I managed to capture Rumnania from Russia, and cut my losses to 2. I 'gave' France Venice (which was disordered Italian) as a bribe, and he attacked England. He also has far more firepower in the Med than me. Turkey has two fleets (Black s and Aeg) and an Army (Const), Russia has armies from Sevastopol to Warsaw. England could conceivably snatch Sweden and/or St P from Russia, but has quite enough trouble what with his war with France. If I attack France, I will have a two front war, France will lose to England, I will lose to Turkey. So who do I ally with? Turkey or Russia? France and/or England? If neither Turkey nor Russia will ally with me, who should I *lose* to? I could allow Russia into the Balkans, so that Turkey has a much greater temptation to stab him, but Russia would be a better positioned ally (what would Turkey do once he and I won back the Balkans?)