Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 5/3/83; site ukc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!mcvax!ukc!ncg From: ncg@ukc.UUCP (N.C.Gale) Newsgroups: net.games.pbm Subject: Re: Austria Message-ID: <5257@ukc.UUCP> Date: Mon, 24-Jun-85 16:46:57 EDT Article-I.D.: ukc.5257 Posted: Mon Jun 24 16:46:57 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 20-Jun-85 20:45:06 EDT References: <5230@ukc.UUCP> <5233@ukc.UUCP> <677@fisher.UUCP> Reply-To: ncg@ukc.UUCP (Nige Gale) Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Kent at Canterbury, UK Lines: 48 In article <677@fisher.UUCP> david@fisher.UUCP writes: >There is no such thing as a respectable second place finish. If you >do not win or draw, you lose, whether you end with zero centers or >sixteen. Therefore, I would have taken the slim chance that the Russians >would come to their senses and stabbed France rather than be an >accessory to my own loss. A 1% chance of sharing a five way draw has >a greater expected return than a 100% chance of finishing second to a >solo winner. > The trouble was that Russia had no common border with French occupied territory. In order for Russia, England, Turkey and Austria all to bring the maximum number of armies to bear on French frontiers (as was necessary, and very quickly, too), Russia would have to a) abandon her homeland to the mercy of someone the player hates and has been persecuting throughout the game b) move through my own similarly undefended homeland without snatching a couple of supply points from someone the player hates Not 1% much, much less. What the Hell is a five-way draw anyway? We were playing to conclusion Immediately after that game, we started a new one, and I was placed right next to the player who had been playing France (who I decided not to backstab and allowed to win in the previous game). He was Turkey, and I Russia. Now if I had just done a vicious backstab, I wouldn't be in a very good position in this game, would I? In my first year at University, there was this person whose first action, whenever he formed an alliance, was to betray it. Eventually everyone else's first action, whenever a game started, was to ally against him & put him out of the game. Personal and emotional considerations must be taken into account when playing against people you have to see the next day. Trust does carry between games. So if your chances of winning the current game are zero or less, perhaps it is a good idea to plan for the next... -Nige Gale Now look what you made me do. I've swallowed my contact lens.