Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihu1m.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!ihu1m!mstach From: mstach@ihu1m.UUCP (Dan Hoelker) Newsgroups: net.ham-radio Subject: Re: Electronics wearing out Message-ID: <458@ihu1m.UUCP> Date: Mon, 10-Jun-85 18:49:17 EDT Article-I.D.: ihu1m.458 Posted: Mon Jun 10 18:49:17 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 11-Jun-85 05:08:57 EDT References: <11251@brl-tgr.ARPA> Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 41 > I have been hearing and reading disturbing things about electronic > components simply "wearing out" from use, or circuit designs which > use batteries for volatile ROMs and which will become useless after > some period of time unless deliberately maintained. The former > example includes a recent net.audio posting about the laser assembly > in a CD player having to be replaced after 5 years or so of use, and the > latter includes the control programming for the ICOM (and other brands) > of shortwave receivers and amateur equipment, wherein an on-board > battery must stay alive to keep a ROM programmed to keep the radio in > operable condition. > > . > . > . > > Regards, > Will Martin > > USENET: seismo!brl-bmd!wmartin or ARPA/MILNET: wmartin@almsa-1.ARPA I don't think anything lasts forever. The "forever" LEDs that were mentioned in the above article also wear out after a given amount of use. Fortunately this is about 250,000 hours (~30 years), longer than most people would keep something ( except radio amateurs. :-) ). I would assume the CD laser life is rated in hours also, with 5 years probably being the "average" based on some study of how often Joe Average uses his. Losing all programmability when a battery goes dead does sound like a design flaw. As far as I know my Yaesu 2M only loses its memory when the battery goes. But I sure like the feature that I can turn off the radio without losing the memory, so it seems like a small price to pay. You also have to remember that manufacturers make a tradeoff between reliability and cost, with cost usually being much more important to the manufacturer. A part that lasts longer may be significantly more expensive, especially when talking in millions of units. When it comes to the bottom line, the cheaper part wins. Dan Hoelker KA9MHK ihu1m!mstach