Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site amdahl.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!bellcore!allegra!mit-eddie!think!harvard!seismo!hao!hplabs!amdahl!ems From: ems@amdahl.UUCP (ems) Newsgroups: net.med Subject: Re: Placebos CANNOT cause cancer!!! Message-ID: <1604@amdahl.UUCP> Date: Mon, 3-Jun-85 17:42:04 EDT Article-I.D.: amdahl.1604 Posted: Mon Jun 3 17:42:04 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 5-Jun-85 19:00:41 EDT References: <1589@aecom.UUCP> <1273@hammer.UUCP> <1550@amdahl.UUCP> <1685@aecom.UUCP> <1592@amdahl.UUCP> Distribution: na Organization: Circle C Shellfish Ranch, Shores-of-the-Pacific, Ca Lines: 37 In reading my prior posting I noticed that there was a possible interpretation of the statistical discussion that was not what I had intended. That is, I refer to the size of the standard deviation in a way that might be taken as meaning that is could be derived from the sample size. This was not the interpretation I had intended. The standard deviation of a population is fixed and independent of the sample size. What I should have said is that it was desired to find the confidence interval (or error factor) for this observation given a small sample size and a presumed small standard deviation. I hope that this brief exposition on statistics has not caused too many of you to fall asleep at your terminals, but I felt compelled to post the observation myself before 20 to 30 math majors posted their stats texts... :-) The offending lines follow: > > First, as I remember it, the question was asked (paraphrase) - or is > the sample size too small ... - > This would indicate to me an understanding of the basic statistics, > but a disire to avoid digging out the stats book to calculate the > sample size needed for a small standard deviation when other > important factors were not available to the person asking. It did > not show, to me, that mako "didn't get" the statistics, but rather > that they understood the statistics and were asking for an > estimate of standard deviation for that sample size. > > -- E. Michael Smith ...!{hplabs,ihnp4,amd,nsc}!amdahl!ems Tilapia Zilli is the way and the light. This is the obligatory disclaimer of everything.