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Subject: Re: 3bnet
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Date: Wed, 5-Jun-85 19:10:07 EDT
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Posted: Wed Jun  5 19:10:07 1985
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> > Why not just provide TCP and IP (or XNS protocols, or ISO protocols, or
> > whatever) on top of Ethernet, and serial lines, and Hyperchannel, and the
> > PCL-11, and...? 
> > 	Guy Harris
> 
> ISO protocols are coming! Perhaps you need the proceedings of the Networking
> Sessions from the last UNIFORUM (Jan., 1985).

Where have we heard *this* one before? For some excellent insight into
whether ISO is worth waiting for, particularly if you already have TCP/IP,
check out the chapter "The Illusion of Vendor Support" in Michael
Padlipsky's recent book "The Elements of Networking Style".  You might also
check out the recent ARPA RFCs and related discussions on a proposed DoD
conversion from TCP to ISO TP-4.

If you're unable to find these references, the bottom line is "don't hold
your breath". Despite massive hype, ISO is likely to remain just (a lot) of
paper for at least the next 5 years.  As far as I'm concerned, AT&T's
versions of Unix will remain useless to me as long as they refuse to support
TCP/IP.

Phil