Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site oberon.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!uscvax!oberon!thompson From: thompson@oberon.UUCP (mark thompson) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: Re: Common Lisp and Object Oriented Programming Message-ID: <38@oberon.UUCP> Date: Fri, 7-Jun-85 14:52:04 EDT Article-I.D.: oberon.38 Posted: Fri Jun 7 14:52:04 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 11-Jun-85 08:01:11 EDT References: <157@harvard.ARPA> Distribution: net Organization: U. of So. Calif., Los Angeles Lines: 35 [Note: Newsgroups pruned] > from Dan Winkler: > The reason I ask is that, although I love Smalltalk and would rather > use it, I don't have access to a practical Smalltalk implementation. > ... Besides, what I really want is Smalltalk on my > Macintosh, but the last I heard was you still need a Lisa to run > Apple's Smalltalk. ... > Since I think that object oriented programming and packages like > Apple's MacApp are currently the best bet for producing Macintosh-like > programs with a finite amount of effort, I'd like to use those > techniques in a native, interactive development environment and the > only such environment I've heard of being currently available is > Experlisp. > I have replied directly, but thought i would post a general comment also. Kriya systems is selling NEON, which is kind of like forth masquerading as smalltalk. The good news is that it is designed for building macintosh applications. I have just started using it, so can't make a recommendation, but from the manual, it looks like wonderful things could be done. Kriya Systems 505 N. Lakeshore Chicago, IL 60611 -mark ps. I don't know anybody there (obviously), and the university does not endorse this or any other products except their own. -- mark thompson is THOMPSON@USC-ECLC.ARPA or { ihnp4 | hplabs | akgua | sdcsvax} !sdcrdcf!uscvax!oberon!thompson "Benson, Arizona, the same stars in the sky, The world seemed so much kinder when we watched them you and I..."