Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.6.2.17 $; site extel.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!tellab1!extel!larry From: larry@extel.UUCP Newsgroups: net.micro.pc Subject: Re: Re: Need 286 "C" benchmark (FLAME!) Message-ID: <61300004@extel.UUCP> Date: Mon, 3-Jun-85 13:20:00 EDT Article-I.D.: extel.61300004 Posted: Mon Jun 3 13:20:00 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 6-Jun-85 01:57:59 EDT References: <152@megad.UUCP> Lines: 39 Nf-ID: #R:megad:-15200:extel:61300004:000:1766 Nf-From: extel!larry Jun 3 12:20:00 1985 Well I have been reading this for a few days and decided to through my 3 bits (37.5 cents) in. As was recently pointed out the choice of a micro depends on the intended application. I would like to add to that the choice of a micro also must make money for the company choosing it! What good is the latest and greatest if you cannot develop and ship a product with it? (Most vendors are guilty of "pre-announcing" in my opinion) While this may not seem like a nice idea to some that is how our society runs. A micro must then: 1. Fit the application. There is no universal benchmark. 2. The cost of the system must be low. This includes memory, peripheral chips, power supply etc. Keep in mind that most microprocessor manufactures make more margin on peripheral chips than the cpu. Ever wonder how many Intel 8251As are sold? 3. The cpu must be supported. Both Intel and Motorola do fairly well here in the form of emulators, development software and system boxes. Several years ago I worked as an applications engineer for Intel and almost all companies evaluating micros with a level head used something like the above 3 points as metrics for their choice. Those companies who did not use similar metrics usually chose another micro because of emotional reasons rather than objective reasons. By the way if there was a need for greater than 64k data segments the 8086 usually failed my point 1 above rather than for an emotional reason. As for the need for > 64k data consider this: We run V7 unix on a pdp-11/70 which gives us 56k for a data area. Of the hundreds of programs we have there are only 2 which I can not run due to the data limit, TeX and pathalias. Not too bad actually though I really would like to run them both. Larry