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From: davido@mmintl.UUCP (David Ornstein)
Newsgroups: net.micro.pc
Subject: Re: Need 286 "C" benchmark (FLAME!)
Message-ID: <434@mmintl.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 31-May-85 11:16:52 EDT
Article-I.D.: mmintl.434
Posted: Fri May 31 11:16:52 1985
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References: <152@megad.UUCP> <1050041@acf4.UUCP>
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In Article: <1050041@acf4.UUCP>, tsc2597@acf4.UUCP (Sam Chin) writes:
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>Someone was looking for a compiler where you could declare more than 64K of
>local static data. Well, both Microsoft C and Metaware have models where
>they dynamically change the DS and ES register...
> ..............
>they were handling multiple data segments). To me though these are *never*
>problems because it is so so simple to write an assembly language kludge to
>handle any amount of data you want or use the low level routines like
>movedata or poke/peek in Lattice. Do they no longer teach Assembler Language
>in schools? Come on!
>
>Sam Chin
>allegra!cmcl2!acf4!tsc2597
>tsc2597.acf4@nyu

*** FLAME ON ***

One of the reasons for using a high level language is portability.  It is
true that you or I could write data manipulation routines to handle peeking,
poking and things like movmem/data.  There are, however, several serious
problems with this approach (some of which are even more important in a
production environment):

	*	If you write these routines for one machine and use
		them in your program, then you are going to have to 
		write them for any other machine that you port your
		product to.  This means YOU.

	*	You still don't get graceful manipulation of large
		data structures that can be efficiently handled
		by compiler generated code.  If you have a very large
		struct and want to be able to manipulate one of its
		components that crosses a segment boundary, it is a 
		BITCH to get that stuff to work no matter how you do
		it.

I think it is unreasonable of you to a) expect others to have the same
abilities that you have (remember that you may someday discover that they
can do something that you can't), and b) to comment on a subject that you
clearly don't understand.

*** FLAME OFF ***

Send Flames...


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