Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site olivee.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!decvax!tektronix!hplabs!oliveb!olivee!gnome From: gnome@olivee.UUCP (Gary Traveis) Newsgroups: net.misc Subject: Re: Re: re: home defense Message-ID: <377@olivee.UUCP> Date: Tue, 4-Jun-85 19:29:33 EDT Article-I.D.: olivee.377 Posted: Tue Jun 4 19:29:33 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 9-Jun-85 02:22:14 EDT References: <1178@hound.UUCP> <27200001@gypsy.UUCP> Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino, Ca Lines: 37 > > > (into the fray...) > > If I were buying a weapon for myself, I'd agree with a pump shotgun. But, > for my wife (5'2, somewhere around 100 lbs, she won't tell me), I think I'd > go with a M-1 Carbine or an AR-15 (civilian M-16). > > > Dave Emery > {princeton|ihnp4}!siemens!emery > > p.s. I do NOT have a weapon in the house, but my wife and I have talked > about it. I'd hate to live anywhere near you if you think an AR-15 is a good home defense weapon. If you mean "defense against your house" - :-) you'd be right, because a .223 jacketted bullet will go through half the interior walls of a normal home without even slowing down. Yes, a 12GA shotgun will kick real bad, but 0 or 00 shot will only go a little way without losing its energy. Much safer in an enclosed area. AR-15s are light, but they are also relatively long, which means poor manueverability in a building. If someone grabs the barrel, guess who has the leverage? A short pump shotgun wins again. The idea of "only getting one shot off" may also apply - so why not go with a 6" impact pattern instead of a .3" single point. If the pump seems too slow, there are also very good semi-auto shotguns around (and for a lot less than an AR-15). I guess it all depends on what you want to protect your home from and what you want to risk in the process. Gary