Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2(pesnta.1.2) 9/5/84; site idsvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!crsp!pesnta!idsvax!steiny From: steiny@idsvax.UUCP (Don Steiny) Newsgroups: net.invest,net.misc Subject: Re: Re: "World Banking Crisis" -- what is it? Message-ID: <161@idsvax.UUCP> Date: Sun, 9-Jun-85 14:21:25 EDT Article-I.D.: idsvax.161 Posted: Sun Jun 9 14:21:25 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 10-Jun-85 08:29:04 EDT References: <11154@brl-tgr.ARPA> <2287@sun.uucp> Distribution: net Organization: Independent Consultant - C/UNIX, Natural Language Lines: 87 Xref: watmath net.invest:670 net.misc:8083 > > In article <11154@brl-tgr.ARPA> wmartin@brl-tgr.ARPA (Will Martin ) writes: > > > >What, pray tell, would happen in a "World Banking Crisis"? > > I think when the administration speaks of a World Banking Crisis they really > mean a domestic political crisis severe enough to change the party in > power at the next election. Another Great Depression would certainly > be sufficient but hardly necessary. > > David Hough *** Maybe. I think that what recently happend in the Midwest where the governer had to declare a bank holiday show that there is a psychological aspect to banks too. A banking crisis would occur if people lost confidence in banks and tried to take all their money out. The "world" aspect of the whole thing can be explained by a hypothetical example. The non-hyphothetical part of the example is that Bank of America, the largest bank in California and therefore one of the larger in the world, has a substantial portion of its equity in loans to Mexico. Suppose that some internal situation in Mexico brought a government to power that says, "FO&D," to B of A? People who have their money in B of A might reason that since a substantial portion of B of A's money was gone forever, they would not be able to pay back all of the money that had been deposited, and the money would be allocated on a first-come first-served basis. Naturally, a person following this line of reasoning would want to get his or her money out immediately. B of A would not be the only bank affected. Sure the money is federally insured, but where is the Federal government going to get the money? Borrow it from B of A? I do not pretend to understand how the government can insure against hundreds of billions of dollars of defaults (a worst case, where several countries default). If the explaination is too complicated, I doubt many people will buy it. Money is information and banks are information transmitters and recievers. The system of exchanging money for goods and services and using capital to provide those goods and services is a vast network extending over the whole world. If the banking component of the system ceases to function, the whole system will cease to function, sort of like what happens if the power supply fails on a Vax. It could be like the depression, only worse because there are more people now. Note that the policies of the current administration are modern day brinksmanship. By keeping the interest rates high in the US, inflation has been subdued. It is pricy for the US, because it makes US goods and services more expensive than foreign goods and services and therefore discourage foreign countries from buying US goods and services and encourage US citizens to buy foreign goods and services. It is pricy for countries that owe the US money because the interest rates have increased on their loans. Kinda of sneaky when you think about it. Loan someone money and then increase the intrest. Such policies decrease standard of living of the debtor nation and decrease the stability. "When you ain't got nothing, you got nothing to loose." From one perspecitive it seems like the overall policies of the administration are slightly imperialistic. When they scream of communist takeover, they are afraid that someone will get into power that will default on the loans. The people of the country are in a position where they have to give most of their money to the US and they face the threat of military intervention if they do not. The intervention is disguised as "saving them from communists," of course, but to the people on the battleground, the difference is inconsequential. On the other hand, if interest rates came down dramatically, most economic models predict that inflation would rise. It seems that some pitfalls are built into the system. If I were given magical power to command everyone to do what I tell them to fix everything, I have little idea what I would do. The one thing I would look at first is increasing the prosperity of debtor nations. pesnta!idsvax!steiny Don Steiny - Computational Linguistics 109 Torrey Pine Terr. Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060 (408) 425-0832