Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site psc70.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!decvax!dartvax!psc70!tos From: tos@psc70.UUCP (Dr.Schlesinger) Newsgroups: net.misc,net.politics Subject: Re: State Tax Dedudction Message-ID: <140@psc70.UUCP> Date: Sun, 16-Jun-85 05:47:45 EDT Article-I.D.: psc70.140 Posted: Sun Jun 16 05:47:45 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 18-Jun-85 05:25:12 EDT References: <735@mtuxo.UUCP>, <896@mhuxt.UUCP>, <676@charm.UUCP> Organization: Plymouth State College, Plymouth, NH Lines: 32 Xref: watmath net.misc:8119 net.politics:9446 The Rosenthal article re. very bad effect of removing state and local tax deduction on education budgets sounds logical on the face of it, and one can hardly argue with its basic thrust... we all want schools to be supported. However, the facts are almost opposite. The state and local tax deduction from federal tax (affecting app. 56% of taxpayers in the state of New York, acc. to what I read) favors the states where the spending on education has been highest all along, i.e. like New York, California, Florida... relatively "progressive" states. The deduction is widely considered "unfair" in states where the least is spent on education, e.g. here in New Hampshire. And here's the rub: New Hampshire, along with the other northern New England states, still has the old-fashioned town meeting system, where people vote personally and directly to appropriate the amount of money to be spent during the year on anything, including their school. They know and indeed discuss at great length, what impact their votes will have on the tax rate during the coming fiscal year. They certainly give no evidence that the deduction affects their decisions... (knowing the types of business and socioeconomic status of the "folks" one can fairly well guess that many are now deducting their property taxes... not because they have such high incomes, but because they are in situations where they might lose quite a lot by taking the "standard" deduction.) Anyway, the main point is not the individual behavior, but that it in states where people have direct control over their education expenditures and when, of course, the deduction has been available, the spending on education has been drastically lower (both in absolute terms per pupil and in terms of ability to pay, i.e. "tax effort") than in states where the people have only very indirect control of this... i.e. by electing more "conservative" school board and legislature if the previous ones are spending "too much."