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From: turner@saber.UUCP (Jim Turner)
Newsgroups: net.motss
Subject: Re: A correction to my drugs and rape posting
Message-ID: <1624@saber.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 13-May-85 13:24:27 EDT
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Posted: Mon May 13 13:24:27 1985
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Organization: Saber Technology, San Jose, CA
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>    WHY! WHY! do gay men have to pull off these lies, bullshit stories and
> games. It's enough to make me want to go straight or join a monestary. I
> hear this same complaint from so many other HONEST people. Why do these
> leeches attach themselves to GOOD people, suck the life outta them, then
> move on, gain your trust then pull the rug out from under you? My roomate
> tells me to forget him but I'm too pissed. I guess the old addage "Good love
> liberates, bad love binds" holds true. If he in fact was afraid of his feel-
> ings for me, then why couldn't he talk to me about it instead of playing the
> evasive lie game? I've always been an open and honest person and have gotten
> burned before. Friends tell me to change and become just like the rest of
> these jerks. I'm sorry, but I cannot lower my standards for my own personal
> behavior. Does this mean that I'll always be alone, since I don't play the
> game...I hope not! 
>    Anyone care to chat about experiences they've had where they ended up
> hooked like some tuna? Also, I'de appreciate anyone sharing feelings of
> anger, betrayal, etc that they felt while on the recieving end of such a
> situation and how they dealt with it. D once told me "You're so nice, I
> really don't deserve a man like you" He's right, he doesn't!!!
> 
> 
>                           Ray (burned in Boston)

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I've never posted to this group before so please excuse any major faux pas's
that i may make. i am straight and can no longer use the 'some of my best
friends are....' statement to qualify any comments i may make here, AIDS is
very real ( as compared to net.jokes ) in the SF area. I am sorry about your
experience with D, but consider what people in other minorities have had to
do to create self-respect for themselves and respect from others. They have
had to be more than just role models (see concurrent discussion on this) they 
have had to excel at being role models. Don't let D make you cynical or spoil
your perspective.

looking back on this it reads like a load of dingo's kidneys, but some where
buried in my inability to express my feeling properly there is a truth in 
there. You're right he doesn't deserve you but there is someone out there 
who does and if you give up looking/dating he'll never find you. I missed a 
chance to help a friend when he need it, don't you

			Don't dream it, be it
			 -Rocky Horror Picture Show

Name:	James Turner
Mail:	Saber Technology, 2381 Bering Drive, San Jose, California 95131
AT&T:	(408) 945-9600 x75
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			god bless Lily St. Cyr
			 -Rocky Horror Picture Show

Name:	James Turner
Mail:	Saber Technology, 2381 Bering Drive, San Jose, California 95131
AT&T:	(408) 945-9600 x75
UUCP:	...{decvax,ucbvax}!decwrl!saber!turner
	...{amd,ihnp4,ittvax}!saber!turner