Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site olivee.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!think!harvard!seismo!hao!hplabs!oliveb!olivee!greg From: greg@olivee.UUCP (Greg Paley) Newsgroups: net.movies,net.theater Subject: Re: Musicals: Stage to screen Message-ID: <383@olivee.UUCP> Date: Fri, 7-Jun-85 20:54:31 EDT Article-I.D.: olivee.383 Posted: Fri Jun 7 20:54:31 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 10-Jun-85 08:21:50 EDT References: <798@ssc-vax.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino, Ca Lines: 44 Xref: watmath net.movies:6594 net.theater:61 > > I'd be interested in hearing opinions on this from both the Hollywood and > Broadway sides of the issue. As you may have guessed, I'm firmly in the > latter camp. Where do you guys stand? > > -- Mark A. > ...{uw-beaver|fluke}!ssc-vax!adolph I can't honestly come up with a single example of a film based on a musical which I could say I enjoyed more than even an average performance of the stage show. There have been those which I thought weren't bad as films ("Oklahoma", "My Fair Lady", "The King and I", I even like the sugary film of "The Sound of Music"), but in no case did they come close to creating the excitement and continuity of their respective staged shows. I was particularly disappointed in the film of "A Little Night Music" at how much of the spice and depth of the characters was lost in translation (not to mention some of the better songs which also disappeared). I did, however, enjoy the videotaped "live" performance of "Sweeny Todd" and wonder if maybe it wouldn't be so terrible to use actual stage performances as a basis for more musical films. One problem that recurs constantly is the paranoia the move moguls have about using known "movie names" in the film casts - often regardless of suitability to the part. I have no doubt that Julie Andrews would have been a better choice than Audrey Hepburn for "My Fair Lady" (Jack Warner thought Andrews too much of an unknown at the time) and found Elizabeth Taylor ludicrous casting in "A Little Night Music" - why not either Glynis Johns or Jean Simmons, both of whom had major successes on stage with it? The question is hardly worth asking; someone who had control over the bucks decided that Elizabeth Taylor would attract large scale audiences and make the film a general success rather than merely a cult favorite (as it was, it was a general flop that didn't even attract a cult following). Another problem for me is the frequent recourse to dubbing voices for the songs when the "stars" chosen to be in the film can't sing them. I'm not suggesting that they force the stars to croak the songs out anyway (as happened, disastrously, with Vanessa Redgrave in "Camelot") but that they at least cast the roles with people who can, in fact, perform the entire role which includes the songs. - Greg Paley