Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site bbncca.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!mhuxt!mhuxr!ihnp4!bbncca!rrizzo From: rrizzo@bbncca.ARPA (Ron Rizzo) Newsgroups: net.motss,net.movies Subject: Re: The NEG&LFF Week #3 [Times of Harvey Milk] Message-ID: <1457@bbncca.ARPA> Date: Tue, 11-Jun-85 09:50:19 EDT Article-I.D.: bbncca.1457 Posted: Tue Jun 11 09:50:19 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 13-Jun-85 03:12:54 EDT References: <1425@shark.UUCP> Organization: Bolt, Beranek and Newman, Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 39 Xref: watmath net.motss:1752 net.movies:6624 The tone of "hutch"'s posting (from under what rock did he just crawl?) should betray the author's intent. Anyone who followed either SF politics or the subsequent trial of White should recognize the odious nonsense in the posting. More detailed accounts are available (Randy Shilts' THE MAYOR OF CASTRO STREET). It's probably a waste of time answering a posting displaying such hatred & idiocy (common these days, on the net & elsewhere), but here's one example to show how loony the claims being made are: George Moscone's popularity flourished almost entirely during his lifetime. A native San Franciscan and Favorite Son (basketball star at an SF high school), he was one of the most popular mayors the City's had in its long history of flamboyant local figures. Except for rival politicians, it was hard to dislike Moscone; he was one of those public figures universally regarded as a Nice Guy. However, the bizarre homophobia of the White trial resulted in the murdered Moscone dropping almost completely into oblivion: Feinstein became mayor, Milk's memory was kep alive by the gay community, but the straights seemed to forgot Moscone ever existed, a really nasty twist of fate for the Favorite Son. The posthumous naming of the Moscone Center hardly makes up for this. Moscone is apparently tainted because he was killed along with the fag Supervisor. I lived in Sf for an entire year after the city hall murders and well remember the weird public response or lack of it. The Moscone mayoralty, an exceptional period of coalition politics, now looks quite rosey, though, at the time, seemed less than perfect. Now SF is stuck with Princess Di and her tireless prudery, the splintering of the brief political links that had been made, and the more familiar more ideological cliches of left and right. Hutch's whining about "dirty politics" eerily echoes the very same infantile excuse-making that Dan White indulged in the flimsiest of attempts to exculpate himself from guilt in the killings. All the backroom manuouverings are detailed in Shilts' book. They aren't very pretty, but they're hardly exceptional in any American city. You can crawl back under your stone, soldier. Diiiiiiiismissed! Ron Rizzo