Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site bbncca.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!bbncca!rrizzo From: rrizzo@bbncca.ARPA (Ron Rizzo) Newsgroups: net.motss,net.movies Subject: Re: motssbox Message-ID: <1461@bbncca.ARPA> Date: Mon, 17-Jun-85 10:15:30 EDT Article-I.D.: bbncca.1461 Posted: Mon Jun 17 10:15:30 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 18-Jun-85 07:36:45 EDT References: <482@rtech.UUCP> Organization: Bolt, Beranek and Newman, Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 33 Xref: linus net.motss:1509 net.movies:4961 Robert Orenstein's bigoted assertions speak for themselves. His speculation that White did not kill Milk because he way gay runs counter to the entire political environment of that time: for example, the behavior and senti- ments of the SF police, fire dept. and other peers and close friends of White before, during and after the murders paint quite a different picture other than mere political infighting. These are covered in Randy Shilts THE MAYOR OF CASTRO STREET and can also be traced via articles in the San Francisco press. But the main point here is that the mere existence of stress or inter- personal hostility hardly serves to fully explain an act as extreme as brutal multiple murder: I doubt many San Franciscans could be persuaded to believe that White would have killed anyone if there had been no gay Board members. Apart from whether the Milk-White relationship can be so characterized, political intrigue and personal feuds are hardly unknown in the City's politics; but they don't usually lead to murder & assassination. For example, Quentin Kopp, the Supervisor from Sunset (a middle class resi- dential neighborhood pretty much out of touch with the rest of San Fran- cisco), an incorrigible conservative & often White's sole ally on the Board, is no stranger to political bickering and backstabbing. According to the accounts I've read and what I saw & heard at the time (I lived in SF from 1977-1979), Ornstein's description is not only off the wall, but contains a murderous variety of homophobia, a kind of kneejerk compulsion to find apologies for any homophobic act, however vicious, under the guise of "understanding motivation" or "rising above partisan interpretations" (but what political coloration does Ornstein's reference to "Moscone's whoremongering" represent---neo- Puritan?). Ron Rizzo