Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Arthur Pewtey) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Re: Volume Message-ID: <1098@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Mon, 17-Jun-85 12:05:19 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1098 Posted: Mon Jun 17 12:05:19 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 18-Jun-85 08:20:14 EDT References: <4450@mit-eddie.UUCP> <4461@mit-eddie.UUCP> Distribution: net.music Organization: The Chartered Accountants Who Want to Be Lion Tamers Association Lines: 45 Keywords: Marcel Simon > I'm not sure if this article is intended in jest or not, but if not I > could not let something like this go by without learning how to post > a reply. >>I despise acoustic instruments > >Well, that is his right, just as it is mine to despise Motorhead and >the like, so I can't say too much about that. >> There is no such thing as music without volume. Therefore volume is the >> essence of music and by extension music *is* volume. > Huh? Perhaps there is no such thing as music without volume, but it is > certainly not the same as saying that music *is* volume. I hear a lot of > VOLUME everyday at work (people laughing, construction machines being used > outside, subway trains, etc....) but this is certainly NOT MUSIC. Music > certainly HAS volume but it is not JUST volume. > ... > Well I guess I've rambled on long enough. I am certainly not one of those > people who are against electronics and amplification, etc... I like many > types of music, including loud music and music with drum machines. However > I felt that I must jump in here in defense of acoustics. [DAVE HARDY] I think you missed the point of Doug's article, but in so doing you proved that point. Doug was making a statement roughly equivalent to (and just as valid as) Marcel's statement that rhythm (as opposed to "volume"---good analogy, Doug!) is THE most important element in music. You were right in pointing out that the view Doug put forth on calling his view an absolute in music is preposterous. I think that was the point he was trying to make. The biggest problem with satire is that if you take it out of context someone is liable to mistake it for the real thing, since no satire can possibly be as outrageous as the real world. (Actually the more you exaggerate to make your point in satire, the more the real world rushes to surpass you!) > "An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a > proposition. It isn't just contradiction .................. Can be! " Now THAT'S a signature line!!! (And very appropriate for the net.) I hope Marcel gets a kick out of reading Doug's article, and then proceeds to substitute "rhythm" and rhythmic terms to replace "volume" and volumic (?) terms and lets us know if the article has become any less satirical. Seriously. -- "Now, go away or I shall taunt you a second time!" Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr