Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site brl-tgr.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!brl-tgr!ron From: ron@brl-tgr.ARPA (Ron Natalie ) Newsgroups: net.ham-radio,net.news.group Subject: Re: new group net.ham-radio.packet -- history/apology/future Message-ID: <11325@brl-tgr.ARPA> Date: Fri, 21-Jun-85 14:14:27 EDT Article-I.D.: brl-tgr.11325 Posted: Fri Jun 21 14:14:27 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 24-Jun-85 03:54:23 EDT References: <459@mtunh.UUCP> <315@gatech.CSNET> <11294@brl-tgr.ARPA> <338@gatech.CSNET> Organization: Ballistic Research Lab Lines: 39 Xref: watmath net.ham-radio:2870 net.news.group:3181 > Instead, it gets mailed to the "moderator" of the group -- in this case, > the "moderator" is actually the news distribution software at the > gateway. The news software then "approves" the article (possibly with > the intervention of the moderator, in the case of a digestified > news list on the Arpanet), and gets sent out both to the Arpa side *and* > the Usenet side from the same site.a It is entirely possible > that no person acts as "moderator" in this setup -- we simply use > the built-in "mod" mechanism to support the list. It also provides > the means for an Arpa digest maintainer to get things from the Usenet > side in a consistent manner. > > Other advantages: > -- Since there is no possibility of followups beating > their base article to the gateway, Arpanetters never have > to contend with the common Usenet problem of reading > responses to articles they haven't read yet. (This > is also solved for Usenetters, BTW.) [Agreed] > > -- with the addition of a human in the mechanism, the > newsgroup could be immediately available for Stargate, > whenever that goes "live". But this requires a HUMAN! This WAS my complaint. > > -- there is almost no possibility of a "feedback-loop" > whereby the same article gets posted to one network > hundreds of times (this happens about every 6 months > with one of the Arpa-gatewayed groups). > You overstate the every six months problem. I only ever recall seeing one case that your AUTOMATED moderation would have helped. In other cases, the problem lied elsewhere. -Ron