Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ucsfcgl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!ucbvax!ucsfcgl!arnold From: arnold@ucsfcgl.UUCP (Ken Arnold%CGL) Newsgroups: net.nlang,net.puzzle Subject: Re: words and their opposites Message-ID: <526@ucsfcgl.UUCP> Date: Wed, 5-Jun-85 20:29:49 EDT Article-I.D.: ucsfcgl.526 Posted: Wed Jun 5 20:29:49 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 9-Jun-85 04:16:58 EDT References: <1542@orca.UUCP> Reply-To: arnold@ucsfcgl.UUCP (PUT YOUR NAME HERE) Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab Lines: 30 Xref: watmath net.nlang:3134 net.puzzle:906 In article <1542@orca.UUCP> todds@orca.UUCP (Todd Stewart) writes: >> > We chop trees DOWN and then we chop them UP ! >> My French teacher told us that when he was teaching English in France, >> his students just couldn't understand why "THE HOUSE BURNED DOWN" means >> exactly the same thing as "THE HOUSE BURNED UP." >Doesn't the UP imply that the house was consumed by the fire, while >the DOWN implies that the house was leveled (razed, given 0 height (-: >). I suspect that the distinction is similar for the tree-chopping >example. The only generally available (and even then not very generally) work on this field is "Metaphors We Live By", by G. Lakehoff and sombody (my copy is at home; I can provide more particulars on request). Unfortuantely, this form of trailing modifier (whose technical name escapes me) is not very well covered in the book; the field of language metaphor is rather recent. Todd's summary for this is basically right. Unfortunately describing how these metaphors seem to work is best done with pictures, not words, so until everybody gets a standard graphics scope on their desk to read news with.... One of the more fascinating things is how the opposites you normally associate with a word are sometimes wrong. For example the opposite of "out" is "in", is it not? We rolled the carpet out. We rolled the carpet up. Well, maybe not always... Ken Arnold