Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ut-sally.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!gatech!ut-sally!riddle From: riddle@ut-sally.UUCP (Prentiss Riddle) Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: A norange and a whole nother story. Message-ID: <2136@ut-sally.UUCP> Date: Wed, 19-Jun-85 13:24:48 EDT Article-I.D.: ut-sally.2136 Posted: Wed Jun 19 13:24:48 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 21-Jun-85 02:56:33 EDT References: <14800002@ism70.UUCP> <394@bu-cs.UUCP> <502@ucsfcgl.UUCP> <705@asgb.UUCP> <135@iclbra.UUCP> <668@lsuc.UUCP> <593@umd5.UUCP> Reply-To: riddle@ut-sally.UUCP (Prentiss Riddle) Organization: U. of Tx. at Houston-in-the-Hills Lines: 30 Re: Infix? Bloody-Nother: "Bob" >> For an interesting side topic, why is it "a whole nother" rather than the >> more logical "an whole other"? Perhaps because of the pain it causes to >> say "an whole", and your amygdalus/angular gyrus rearranges the syllables >> to shift the "n" from before the "whole" to after it? If only I could remember all that literary and linguistic terminology that I learned in high school English! You see, the switch "an other" <=> "a nother" is a common and well known one, and there is a standard term for the process. The most famous example in English is the word "orange", which I have heard was once "norange". The only dictionary I have at hand doesn't concur that there was ever such a word in English, but the word underwent a similar transformation somewhere along the line in any case. The etymology in front of me at the moment: [ME & OFr "orenge"; Pr. "auranja" (with sp. influenced by L. "aurum", gold and loss of initial "n" through faulty separation of article "une") < Sp. "naranja"; Ar. "naranj"; Per. "narang"] The word "another" has undergone/is undergoing a similar process. One place you see evidence for it is in phrases like "a whole nother story;" you also see it in the writings of children and other people who haven't had spelling conventions throughly pounded into them, as in the epithet, "You're a nother!" --- Prentiss Riddle ("Aprendiz de todo, maestro de nada.") --- {ihnp4,harvard,seismo,gatech,ctvax}!ut-sally!riddle --- riddle@ut-sally.UUCP, riddle@ut-sally.ARPA, riddle%zotz@ut-sally