Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site spar.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!decwrl!spar!ellis From: ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Re: question about names for symbols (IPA) Message-ID: <340@spar.UUCP> Date: Thu, 20-Jun-85 02:37:37 EDT Article-I.D.: spar.340 Posted: Thu Jun 20 02:37:37 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 23-Jun-85 00:38:33 EDT References: <2041@iddic.UUCP> <688@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> Reply-To: ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) Organization: Schlumberger Palo Alto Research, CA Lines: 36 >The velar nasal consonant (n with right leg extended like descender of g) is >often called ENGMA. The mid-high mid-back vowel ("uh") is CARET, since >indeed the symbol in other uses is just that. The Greek letters of course >inherit their regular names. The voiced "th" is "crossed d" or "barred d" >for some people, and thorn for others -- though it's not exactly the >same as the old thorn character. -- Mitch Marks AngloSaxon texts use two symbols interchangeably in the words now written `th': `thorn': looks like cross between lowercase `p' and `b' `eth': looks like a barred `d' (`eTH' has the TH in `THe') Sometimes modern transcriptions of Anglo-Saxon regularize these so that eth is used where we now use a voiced-th (then, that) and thorn elsewhere (thin, thatch), as in modern Icelandic, which, I believe, uses those same names. IPA discards thorn and uses theta instead. Other IPA symbols required for English are `ash', the AngloSaxon character for the vowel in `ash', apparently derived from the Latin digraph `ae', and `shwa', the upside-down `e' whose name comes from Hebrew. These letters all look somewhat as below: ASH SHWA CARAT ENGMA ETH THORN THETA # ## ### ##### # # # ### ## ### ### # ### # #### # # # # # # # # ### # # ##### ##### #### # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ## ### ### ### ### ### # ### #### ### # # ### ### -michael