Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site psivax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Newsgroups: net.women,net.nlang Subject: Re: The closed class of pronouns Message-ID: <515@psivax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 20-Jun-85 19:19:14 EDT Article-I.D.: psivax.515 Posted: Thu Jun 20 19:19:14 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 23-Jun-85 02:36:12 EDT References: <290@wuphys.UUCP> <678@sphinx.UCHICAGO.UUCP> <300@wuphys.UUCP> Reply-To: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Organization: Pacesetter Systems Inc., Sylmar, CA Lines: 35 Xref: watmath net.women:5998 net.nlang:3234 Summary: In article <300@wuphys.UUCP> bsc@wuphys.UUCP (Bryan Coughlan) writes: > > Let's take a look at the "closed class" of personal >pronouns: > > Singular Plural > >1st person I We >2nd person You You (Y'all!) >3rd person He,She They > > The third person singular is the only form without >a gender neutral pronoun. Why should this be so? >Well, when the class was set up, women were considered >by everyone to be second-class citizens. Thus, when in >doubt, the default gender was male. Since then, things >have changed to the point where women are actually >considered to be first-class citizens (I hope!). I >think that this is a big enough change in society >to open up the pronoun class to include a new one. > Actually, this is incorrect. The system was set up so that the singular anaphoric pronoun agreed with its antecedent noun in *grammatical* gender, which originally was only loosely tied to biological gender. Thus, the "masculine" form was the default, when the antecedent gender was unknown, because masculine nouns were more common than other classes. Its "dominance" is an accident of grammatical history. (Note that German still uses these pronouns in the old, grammatical manner). -- Sarima (Stanley Friesen) {trwrb|allegra|cbosgd|hplabs|ihnp4|aero!uscvax!akgua}!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen or {ttdica|quad1|bellcore|scgvaxd}!psivax!friesen