Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site oliveb.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!pesnta!hplabs!oliveb!long From: long@oliveb.UUCP (A Panther Modern) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: Language Message-ID: <428@oliveb.UUCP> Date: Thu, 6-Jun-85 20:46:40 EDT Article-I.D.: oliveb.428 Posted: Thu Jun 6 20:46:40 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 8-Jun-85 06:37:36 EDT References: <1168@uwmacc.UUCP> Reply-To: long@oliveb.UUCP (A Panther Modern) Organization: the Sprawl Lines: 21 Summary: | > An inference to be made from this, given the observed trend towards | > simplification in civilized languages, and the high degree of | > complexity of the languages of primitive cultures, is that the | > languages of the latter cultures are more closely related to their | > original languages than are the civilized ones. This is entirely | > consistent with the hypothesis of an origin of language that was | > complex and completely functional from the start. It is also | > inconsistent with a developmental theory of language origin positing | > increasing complexity arising from non-linguistic sources. Complexity is not a sign of being completely functional from the start. Imagine someone thinking "Gee, wouldn't it be nifty if we had a dative case? .... Eureka! All we need to do is to have vowel shifts of such-and-such, then add special endings (depending on the gender of the word), and we've got it!." If there are several such decisions made as a language develops, one has a very complex, kludged up language. Computer languages are like this; the early ones had "kitchen-sink" tendencies, but more recent ones are simpler. Dave Long -- {hplabs,fortune,idi,ihnp4,tolerant,allegra,tymix}!oliveb!long