Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site psivax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: about origins... Message-ID: <492@psivax.UUCP> Date: Wed, 5-Jun-85 20:44:15 EDT Article-I.D.: psivax.492 Posted: Wed Jun 5 20:44:15 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 10-Jun-85 20:56:57 EDT References: <246@ihdev.UUCP> <176@utastro.UUCP> Reply-To: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Distribution: net Organization: Pacesetter Systems Inc., Sylmar, CA Lines: 31 Summary: > ron vaughn's advice for creationist: > > let's face it, you can read the bible to them every day, teach them > about christianity until you think they truly believe, but if you > show them the scriptures and they dispute it, what can you do? > you say "god created the earth, look, look right here.." and they > say "no, no, you can't take that literally" and poooof! your beliefs > mean NOTHING to them. if you don't have cold hard evidence, your > ideas are not even submitted for speculation. > you can't prove creationism or existence of jesus or.... anything if > the person doesn't first believe in the bible, god etc. you have to > start there first. you're treating the symptoms, not the problem. > scientific evidence for the creationism camp is far less than that > for the evolution camp. if you make christians out of them first, > THEN (and most likely ONLY then) you can show them you are right. > Actually not even then! I am a Christian, and I am most certainly *not* a Creationists, and I consider the style of biblical interpretation necessary to arrive at the Creationists position to be questionable, to say the least. If you want more on this subject, ask me in net.religion.christian or some such group. (Basically I feel that the Bible is not a science text and should not be read as if it were one, which is what the Creationists do) -- Sarima (Stanley Friesen) {trwrb|allegra|cbosgd|hplabs|ihnp4|aero!uscvax!akgua}!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen or {ttdica|quad1|bellcore|scgvaxd}!psivax!friesen