Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mmintl.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!davido From: davido@mmintl.UUCP (David Ornstein) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: Mutually Exclusive Claim. Message-ID: <439@mmintl.UUCP> Date: Tue, 4-Jun-85 12:29:46 EDT Article-I.D.: mmintl.439 Posted: Tue Jun 4 12:29:46 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 9-Jun-85 22:16:24 EDT References: <2336@decwrl.UUCP> <1723@aecom.UUCP> Reply-To: davido@mmintl.UUCP (David Ornstein) Organization: Multimate International, E. Hartford, CT Lines: 59 Summary: In Article: <1723@aecom.UUCP>, berger@aecom.UUCP (Mitchell Berger) writes: >> > Why is that trouble? If God is not part of the universe, >> > what prevents Him from acting, affecting, or manifesting in the >> > universe? Further, what prevents God from doing whatever He >> > wishes to do? >> >> You assume a " creator ", along with some form of " >> substance ". A " GOD " would reside in a hierarchically higher >> dimensional level than our limited dimensions. However, there is >> a limit to the hierarchy, and it is not clear that we exist in a >> lower one, that is, it is possible that we ARE the highest level >> in this particular system. > >There is an alternative here that I don't see anyone else discussing. >There is such a thing as un-dimentional, not zero dimentional (a point), >or infinitely dimentional, but a mode of existance in which the concept >is meaningless. As an example, look at mass. When I say that a force >has no mass, am I really saying that the mass is zero? Maybe Gd exists >in a non-dimentional non-universe. How many dimentions do emotions have? > . > . > . >Micha Berger >2525 Amsterdam Ave. Suite M406 NY, NY 10033 (212) 781-0756 >{philabs|cucard|pegasus|rocky2}!aecom!berger I tend to believe that in these cases, it is language, perception and interpretation that make the difference. I believe that emotion has as much "right" to be dimensional as does space or time. It seems to me that it is all a question of subjective assignment. If I choose to say that emotion is a 9 dimensional form (degrees of some quantities that I choose to call: love, want, lust, interest, help_thy_neighborness, etc.) who is to say that it is not. Emotion (and all other things that we choose to isolate from each other) are what they are. Each person has a subjective (and equally "correct") way of measuring and analyzing these things. I live my life by communicating with other people. The method I use (consciously) is to try and quess what various words mean to the person I am speaking to. Then I construct my sentence. It seems obvious to me that all these concepts are as real as anything else we choose to evaluate in isolation. Davido How'd I do? -- ****************************************************************************** * David Ornstein Out of the way, you swine! * * A computer scientist is coming! * * U.S. Snail: * * Multimate International Corp. --- STANDARD DISCLAIMER --- * * 52 Oakland Avenue * * East Hartford, CT. 06108 * * UUCP: * * ...!seismo!utah-cs!utah-gr!pwa-b!mmintl!davido * ******************************************************************************