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Date: Sun, 16-Jun-85 20:02:00 EDT
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Posted: Sun Jun 16 20:02:00 1985
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Nf-From: hpfcms!bill    Jun  5 16:02:00 1985

>...but that the "God" model
>is kind of boring, whereas the inductive model is deeper and more demanding.
>Some people really like to solve puzzles, so they put a lot of effort into
>trying to figure out how the whole world as we observe it might have arisen
>from structurally simple origins tranformed by uniform rules.
>Other people don't, so they say "God did it".  This reduces insomnia.

There you go again, Jim!  The value, truthfulness, validity, and strength
of an argument is directly proportional to the amount of effort required
to formulate it.  Talk about arrogance!!!  This is the whole problem
between God and man - pride.  "God" is a "boring" model - too simple, too
many questions answered (some by "We'll never know in this life.").  But
the myriads of theories arising from complexity and twisted logical
thought MUST be true - I mean, look at the human effort needed to arrive
at them!  You CANNOT look down upon those who have accepted a "model" by
faith, simply because they aren't putting in the effort you are to understand
things (which may or may not be true).  Also, the Bible says that the
foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God
is stronger than man's strength.  Perhaps God doesn't put much stock into
these "deep" and "demanding" theories, either.

Tell me, Jim.  What makes one "model" better than another?  From what I've
read above, complexity and effort do.  This is a faulty set of criteria,
to say the least.

And yes, I sleep really well - thanks!

>(I will tell you one thing though; if I were God, I would think a lot more
>highly of those who didn't believe in me.)
>
>-- Jim Balter (ima!jim)

Why?  Because the ones who don't believe are so much more intellectually
active?  Hogwash.  I'm not intellectually stagnant - I ponder and wonder
at lots of things, both within the Bible and outside the Bible.  What
makes a Christian so inferior to those who haven't stooped so low as to
accept a (gag) faith?

By the way, the Bible says that God wants nothing more than to have each
one of us not only believe in Him, but glorify and praise Him.  Perhaps
He is intellectually stagnant too.

Bill Gates