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From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Arthur Pewtey)
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Subject: Re: Premises,Premises,Premises,...
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>> Until you or I can find a distinct difference between the two, we should
>> continue to do so.    (of Samet's and Nazis' intolerance)
> 
> Sure, but I thought I found it (see below). You disagree with 
> self-consistency test as the only way one can judge some morality system 
> without using one's own morality to do it. All further disagreement stems 
> from that.
> And you show us your way (see below). I can not accept it and will tell why.
> 
>>> > I do not see any other yardstick.   (me on self-consistency)
>>
>> How about how successfully the morality provides for the needs of all the
>> people within the society?
> 
> I like it. I do. I really do. Do I like it! What else can I say to
> justify acceptance of this dogma?

I'm not sure.  What is it you're looking for?

>> It would be the view of every person if they thought about their own
>> rights and the rights of others and carried the thinking through to its
>> logical consequences.
> 
> ?????????
> What if I like "the Strong rule" and live by it? What logic could make 
> me admit that there are "rights of others"? Please show us this logic.

"The strong rule" is a fact of life no matter which morality you subscribe to.
A morality that serves the needs of all the people as much as possible will
gain the support of those people, and the support of the vast majority of
people should be enough deterrent to you if you choose to believe there are
no "rights of others".  And if it's not, the society should be strong enough
to put a stop to any interference you might decide to evince.
-- 
"Discipline is never an end in itself, only a means to an end."
						Rich Rosen   pyuxd!rlr