Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site umcp-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!decvax!genrad!grkermi!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!umcp-cs!mangoe From: mangoe@umcp-cs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: Science and Subjectivity Message-ID: <136@umcp-cs.UUCP> Date: Tue, 11-Jun-85 18:28:53 EDT Article-I.D.: umcp-cs.136 Posted: Tue Jun 11 18:28:53 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Jun-85 00:26:29 EDT References: <26@umcp-cs.UUCP> <304@spar.UUCP> Organization: U of Maryland, Computer Science Dept., College Park, MD Lines: 22 }iOrganization: University of Maryland, Computer Science Dept. In article <304@spar.UUCP> ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) writes: >>> Individual subjective experience is by definition external to >>> the universe of science, since the scientific method involves >>> by definition phenomena that are verifiable by independent >>> observers. >>Does this mean that the social sciences aren't sciences? - Paul Torek > No. > The social sciences tend to study the RESPONSES of large groups of > people statistically, in hopes of achieving repeatable results. > Note that objective effects are being observed, such as `how > did most subjects respond to a sequence of stimuli?'. This statement is only true of behaviorist studies; other schools do indeed concern themselves with observations of inner states, which by their very nature must be subjective. Charley Wingate umcp-cs!mangoe