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From: davet@oakhill.UUCP
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Subject: Re: Comment about Uri Geller [Long and flame content]
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Date: Wed, 12-Jun-85 21:30:26 EDT
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>>in article <476@ihu1e.UUCP> Bill Tanenbaum says:
>> This brings up another problem with the whole paranormal thing.  You are
>> assuming that psychic power (or whatever is going on) is just turned on at
>> will.                       ...
>
>It's very easy to put a value on this event. ZERO.  I'll believe it when
>you, or any other psychic, gets a feeling about the value of the stock
>market next month and makes millions of dollars.  Or, a feeling who is going
>to win the fifth race at Belmont.  The amount of self-delusion in your
>posting is incredible.

This brings up another problem with the whole paranormal thing.  You are
assuming that psychic power (or whatever is going on) is just turned on at
will.

I won't post this paragraph a third time. Obviously, you can't read.

BTW, in the instance I mentioned the feeling that I was looking at a dead
person was so strong I had to throw the magazine away.  I have never had
such a feeling before, it was as though I was looking at a rotting corpse.

It's not possible to entirely rule out somehow overhearing information, such
as being half-asleep with the TV news on. But as far as I can determine only
the guy's close family knew what was going on at the time.

I find it funny that some people feel so threatened about the possibility
of ESP-like stuff going on in the universe.  Disturbs their world model I
guess.

There's an interesting test which causes people like Bill to actually perform
ESP when they think they are actually disproving it.  It's pretty neat.
More in a later posting.

Dave Trissel  {ihnp4,seismo}!ut-sally!oakhill!davet