Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site npois.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!bellcore!allegra!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!mtuxo!npois!jay From: jay@npois.UUCP (Anton Winteroak) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: re long scissors Message-ID: <334@npois.UUCP> Date: Wed, 5-Jun-85 14:50:19 EDT Article-I.D.: npois.334 Posted: Wed Jun 5 14:50:19 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 10-Jun-85 00:30:01 EDT Organization: ATTIS, Neptune, NJ Lines: 20 A way to look at the long scissors experiment to demonstrate to yourself that you cannot use them to transmit information at faster than the speed of light (in a vacuum) is that one bar of the scissor can be held stationary, while the other moves. The moving bar must be waved back and forth in a way that represents the information being sent. The stresses in the bar which cause each succeeding layer of atom to sway one way or the other cannot move faster than the speed of light. Of course if you are only looking for one sweep of the blades, you can get the cross-over moving at faster than the speed of light, but you cannot send information faster than light. Not to be a spoilsport or anything, but how thick would the blades of such scissors have to be in order to keep them from breaking under the stress of the force to move them, or at least to prevent mechanical bending that far outsizes the relativistic bending? I hear that if you accelerate a meter stick made of 3 cm on a side spring steel up to 50% the speed of light, at the maximum rate that won't permenently deform it more than 1 mm, it will as far away as Venus when it gets up to speed.