Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ecsvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!ecsvax!dgary From: dgary@ecsvax.UUCP (D Gary Grady) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: speed Message-ID: <1428@ecsvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 6-Jun-85 10:58:04 EDT Article-I.D.: ecsvax.1428 Posted: Thu Jun 6 10:58:04 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 10-Jun-85 06:46:53 EDT References: <359@osiris.UUCP> <56@rtp47.UUCP>, <11222@brl-tgr.ARPA> Organization: Duke U Comp Ctr Lines: 33 Sometimes simplifying a notion leads to a misunderstanding (how's that for a generic opening line?). For instance, we've found that telling people that a floppy disk is like a phonograph record causes no end of confusion. When you pull the disk out of the drive without stopping the program, they are as astonished as they would be if ZZTop kept caterwauling even after you removed the record from the turntable. In relativity people are often told that "all motion is relative" and they wonder then why we can't view the traveling twin as being at rest and the other twin as taking the round-trip journey. In fact, asking that question shows good physics intuition; they are looking for symmetries. The problem is that NOT all motion is relative. Inertial reference frames are equally valid, which says something quite different. The twin at rest is at rest in one inertial reference frame the whole time. The traveling twin has to use her rocket motor to change directions, so that twin is NOT at rest in an inertial frame for the whole time. That's the non-symmetry in the Twin Paradox. APS used to sell an excellent book of reprints on Special Relativity that contained papers on the Twin Paradox (including the famous Dingle argument in Nature) and other fascinating things. Of interest to science fiction buffs is one on how far one could go accelerating continuously at 1g. Turns out you could get to another galaxy in a little over two decades of ship time, or get anywhere in the universe in (I think) thirty-some years. Of course, no such journey could be round-trip in any real sense of the word... -- D Gary Grady Duke U Comp Center, Durham, NC 27706 (919) 684-3695 USENET: {seismo,decvax,ihnp4,akgua,etc.}!mcnc!ecsvax!dgary