Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site warwick.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!mcvax!ukc!warwick!kay From: kay@warwick.UUCP (Kay Dekker) Newsgroups: net.religion,net.philosophy,net.physics Subject: Re: Comment about Uri Geller Message-ID: <2274@flame.warwick.UUCP> Date: Fri, 7-Jun-85 01:42:58 EDT Article-I.D.: flame.2274 Posted: Fri Jun 7 01:42:58 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 12-Jun-85 00:55:06 EDT References: <470@nmtvax.UUCP> <1289@amdcad.UUCP> <1899@ut-sally.UUCP> Reply-To: kay@warwick.UUCP (Kay Dekker) Organization: VLSI Group, Warwick University, UK Lines: 24 Xref: linus net.religion:6686 net.philosophy:1669 net.physics:2346 Xpath: warwick flame flame ubu Well, I've just watched Tim and Dave discuss Uri Geller, and, at the end of it I'm no wiser than I was before. Neither, I should think, are they. You know, the one thing that puzzles me about all this is: why would anyone who could perform things like those that are claimed for and by Geller want (rationally) to defraud? Seems to me that even if the "happenings" were rare and unrepeatable, it shouldn't be *too* hard to investigate them, given *one* thing: that the investigation could be performed dispassionately. Tell me: is there no-one out there who can do even one tenth of those acts claimed for Geller, and who is egoless enough to go in to explore their ability honestly? and are there no investigators who are "scientific" (O disreputable word!) enough to collaborate in those investigations without needing to involve those investigations in clouds of public denunciation? If so, then the question of the existence and nature of "paranormal" events must remain merely a matter of opinion. BTW, normally I like and appreciate both Dave and Tim's postings. flamelessly, Kay. -- "In a world without rational structure, even the most bizarre events must eventually take place." -- Philip Avalon, "On the Resurrection of Reagan" ... mcvax!ukc!warwick!flame!kay