Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ecsvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!unc!mcnc!ecsvax!dgary From: dgary@ecsvax.UUCP (D Gary Grady) Newsgroups: net.religion,net.philosophy,net.physics Subject: Re: More on ESP and the "feeling" Message-ID: <1467@ecsvax.UUCP> Date: Wed, 12-Jun-85 17:15:57 EDT Article-I.D.: ecsvax.1467 Posted: Wed Jun 12 17:15:57 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 13-Jun-85 02:39:49 EDT References: <459@ho95b.UUCP>, <248@rti-sel.UUCP> Organization: Duke U Comp Ctr Lines: 18 Xref: watmath net.religion:7119 net.philosophy:1919 net.physics:2600 > There have been instances of alleged counting horses and other > super-smart animals that illustrate this principle. In one well-known > case (unfortunately, I can't remember the horse's name) the horse > would read subtle body signals from its owner while it was counting, > signals the owner wasn't even aware of. When the owner was removed > from the horse's presence, Voila! The horse's I.Q. suddenly dropped to > normal horsey levels. > -- Bill Ingogly The horse's name was "Clever Hans." I might plays devil's advocate and note that if the horse was using ESP to communicate with the owner that could also account for the observed behavior. Not that I buy that explanation! -- D Gary Grady Duke U Comp Center, Durham, NC 27706 (919) 684-3695 USENET: {seismo,decvax,ihnp4,akgua,etc.}!mcnc!ecsvax!dgary